Comments on: Diablo 3 screenshots redone

By: Weirod

Weirod — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:03:44 +0000

That last bit in my last comment seems contradictory, so I’ll clear it up. What I mean is that the levels in Diablo 2 ranged from being bright to being very dark and that it will be the same with D3.

Now I’m just going to conjecture. The darker levels do tend to be better and a lot more fun to play. Usually, the darker the dungeon, the badder the boss. Maybe that is why they decided not to show a dungeon that was dark. Then they would have to reveal a bada$$ boss. The boss in the second bit of the video was pretty bada$$ enough though. So imagine what you would have to face during the levels in hell! XD

By: Weirod

Weirod — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:57:14 +0000

DIABLO III is going to be awsomeness. Quit whining bout the lack of darkness. There are so many places in D2 that were as bright as the unaltered pic. Some places are even brighter. I do agree, however, that rainbows should not be in D3. I didn’t notice it myself, but I will have to give that a no go. No rainbows please. But as I was saying, the area you go through after you defeat the Ancients was pretty bright too. Thats supposed to be the last dungeon as well! It was only when you got to the lowest level of that dungeon did the walls turn red and you had to fight Baal’s minions. I think that all of you who whine about the darkness have selective memory. Most of the people who did MF runs would remember mostly dark places because the best places to MF were dark places (like doing Meph runs), but those places were only a small fraction of the game. The same goes for the gameplay demo. That is a very very small fraction of what is to be D3. There is plenty of room for darker dungeons just like there was in D2.

By: Chard

Chard — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:28:57 +0000

Surely in game you can just lower the gamma, like in any game and it will become darker? most of the time i play on a high gamma setting on games because it makes the colours more vivid and a nicer playing experience, although i understand that diablo is a gothic horror thing and you want to be scared when monsters jump out of the dark corners and claw at you!

By: kratos

kratos — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:20:29 +0000

Pewpdaddy its very ignorant of you and everyuone else who agrees with your statemjent to say something like that, my reasons being that diablo is meant as seen in the original to have a dark as in gothic and scary feeling, diablo 2 was the first to raun this, but its meant to be like this because the original is the focal point of a games theme. Its not the colours that make it dark or least all becasue of the colours, its the sounds,music,story,characters such as the music is triatram which had a very eiry feeling to it, so much that i had to get a q-tip from my washroom, no just kidding not that kinf of ear. Anyways as i was saying this is i think what the players of diablo are thinking, not neccesarily the colours(iv discovered people dont realize themselves what they are trying to say) So now Mr. Pewpdaddy why dont you go play a song on the piano or read a nice book. Next three character classes will be Spidervine (combination of spiderman and wolverine) the Cootie Monster, and Robo Bobo.

By: ULAMSS5

ULAMSS5 — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:30:24 +0000

as for the new character thing… hmm… SUPER MEGA KITTEH? or…such-a-big-mouth-you-have-GRANDMA? but seriously though, the main ones who will be in, there will definitely be 1. a paladin- like class, the most.. “balanced” one that is in almost all the mmorpgs, and there will be a heavy melee unit, slightly slower, which is probably taken by the barbidie. and also there will be an archer-like person, and a magical dude. they as “basic”s in about allll of the RPG and those kind of stuff. maybe they’ll put in jedi masters, Super saiyans, Hokages, Gundams, Sonics, Marios, justice league heroes, that-cow-we-saw-in-D2-act-1-in-town, and maybe the chickens too? hmmm probably even a 3 year old kid would be a class. lol.

p.s. most of this post was meant as a joke, and this was in reply to Kratos.

By: ULAMSS5

ULAMSS5 — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:21:30 +0000

The original one is so much better like duh. for those who has problems with the radius, you don’t play diablo enough to know that, the bigger your own radius, the bigger the range the enemies can see you in dark places. means that your radius is small = enemies can’t see you. radius big = enemies can see you. =.= .yeah but seriously, they should just continue to put in the brightness/gamma/contrast shit for those DARK players.

By: Pewpdaddy

Pewpdaddy — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:12:38 +0000

As stated above … To the umpteen sissies crying about the layout of the footage that we’ve seen that is likely the first effing dungeon … You dont know where the plot is at this time … You dont know crap about the game yet … And you’ve seen video prefabbed in parts of the enviroment that are “working” the game isnt going to be out for a year or more … and yet your sure you already dislike the art … What if outside for this Chapter is all fluffy bunnies and butterflies… If its good you’ll still play it … I find it very hard to believe that the depths of the burning hells will be all fluffy … Its a very small part of the game and all the sudden the entire game is too bright and cartoony … Let them show some other dungeons before you start trashing them … Get your heads out of your @$$’s … bunch of friggin crybabies…

By: kratos

kratos — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:23:16 +0000

what does everyone reaing my comment think the next three diablo 3 classes will be? Keep in mind blizzard appears to want to increases the speed of combat, so therefore a hit and run archer type warrior is probably out, so give me your opinions, and no cleric/paladin type character I doubt there will be any type of character like that. Also blizzard stated no other characters will be returning, its only the barbarian coming back.

By: -AAT-DEVILSDEMON

-AAT-DEVILSDEMON — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:39:35 +0000

DARK DIABLO III!!! FTW

Maybe they will make up for this mistake of making it more colourful in the expansion…..

But hey, remember we as fans have only seen 2!! Levels…. there could be much more to this than meets the eye….

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:37:14 +0000

it is much better the way the fans did although ill buy it anywayz that way ill enjoy it much more!

By: Joe King

Joe King — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:21:55 +0000

I loled:D

By: Kratos

Kratos — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:37:10 +0000

Kratos is never stoned.

By: Joe King

Joe King — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:36:47 +0000

Please tell me you were stoned when you suggested that Kratos. You’ve got the right idea Mason!

By: Mason

Mason — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:10:12 +0000

Lighting in the chopped version is wicked cool.

The monsters in the corners should be hard to see. It’s a gameplay skill to be able to pick them out. And it really improves the mood of the game.

I don’t like the desaturation though, I agree with the blizz dev on that. Why can’t hell can be colorful? There is nothing inherently more creepy/scary about a grey zombie than a green one.

Meanwhile, humans have a natural fear of the dark. Any situation or depiction can be made scarier if you take away our light.

DARK DIABLO III!!!

By: Kratos

Kratos — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:54:10 +0000

Does anyone think blizzard will add or should add a jester class to diablo since its a mideval setting? The jester could be really quick and do cart wheels to move and attack enemies and he could throw cards that explode like gambit form the x-men.

By: Joe King

Joe King — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:53:20 +0000

I agree with some of the above users that Diablo 3 is supposed to be scary somwwhat. The first Diablo actually gave me nightmares(granted I was 9 instead of 18 but that is besides the point) It is Blizzards game and they can do whatever they want but I still think that gives them no right to COMPLETELY tune out the fans. Besides in one of the original screenshots outside there is a fucking rainbow, I mean jesus christ come on; a rainbow!?

By: Kratos

Kratos — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:07:07 +0000

for diablo 3 they could have kept the graphics similar to the first one where the characters and the enviroment had a 3d look but really were 2-d and just added in brand new heroes and quests and improved ideas to enhance gameplay and remove the bad, and that would be an eceleent 3rd installment into the series and i think that most players if not all would agree with me. and keep the gothic feel from the frist!! Blizzard! whats the matter just becasue we will buy it and enjoy it that doesnt mean you should turn it into WoW like i read someone say if we wanted to play WoW we’d buy the game and play it. over all d3 looks like it greatly increases the gameplay experience compared to d1 and d2. I AM exicted for it to come out.

By: Thebomb

Thebomb — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:56:20 +0000

And those retards saying turn down your gamma, and all that crap, The photoshopped version looks (to me) exactly how D3 should look, its more correct on how the previous games had it set. So screw you, turn your gamma up.

By: Thebomb

Thebomb — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:53:28 +0000

I honestly have NO problem with how the game looks, its the simple fact that it DOES NOT have the D2 feel. Those of you that played or play D2 know exactly what im talking about.

By: fist

fist — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:19:30 +0000

Alright I have alot to say unfortunately for those reading…

The original screencap has a very WoW feel indeed, this is Blizzard confirming and claiming that they are progressing with graphical stylization and drawing from WoW.

-Pro: Keeping with the times which is important for marketing and also the standard of quality today with games.
-Con: Recycling the WRONG material, Warcraft always was brighter and more cartoonish than the world of Diablo was (refer back to the originals of both).

The edit of the screencap definitely draws out a more Diablo feeling however with the color stylization.

-Pro: Screenshot compromises the cartoony for the gloomy.
-Con: It just simply doesn’t work with the environment shown in the photo.

I am 100% on the side of the people disappointed in the new graphical changes presented to us. I used to think it was because it had a WoW feel and not a Diablo, but being fair I simply do not think this will be the Diablo game to make everything feel complete and faithful to the series. The jump from Diablo to Diablo 2 was indeed a great one, but retained all previous elements from the 1st. This doesn’t.

If it’s not the lack of (obvious) gloom shown in the screens or footage, it looks to be the gameplay mechanics that frustrate me. In Diablo you didn’t need to knock down a wall to save your ass or do something different. Hack and Slash gameplay is about progression through repetition: you improve your gear and keep doing what you’re doing and in the end it’s the minor but constant progression that is the reward that makes it fun. The Havok engine is really not needed to bolster gameplay; it complicates the game at a disadvantage to those with the mindset of a Diablo world. And no need for potions? Why, I know it’s inconvenient to scrounge in the heat of battle, but I can safely say that the element of slow (or rarely instant) healing was a beautiful tactical style to fight around. This is another WoW-ish touch (as you really don’t need potions because you generally have a healer doing the job in the background) that I think overshadows familiar gameplay.

I hate the rants even though mine is lengthy enough…I just hope the new product has enough cohesive elements to be a new and enjoyable experience as it will not capture the vintage gameplay I loved initially…

By: andrew

andrew — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:40:28 +0000

i reckon d3 will be awesome- i’m happy if there will be dark, spooky places as well as brighter places, a range is always good.

By: John

John — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:19:44 +0000

Are we all serious on this forum. This is just ridiculous… I just have one question to all of those who think the darker one is “scarier”, Do you sleep with the lights on? And as previously stated, Simon, from Aug 11th, 2008 at 5:52 pm said it right.

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By: kratos

kratos — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:05:52 +0000

I would like to state to all the people who say that Blizzard has never let us down before with their previous titles, those people who made those previous titles like the first diablo no longer are with Blizzard but different game designers. It is not a game company that makes good games it is the individual people who develope the game. I am not trying to say diablo 3 will be a bad game, it will be great and I will purchae it and like it, i just wanted to make this point as everyone seems to not see this. Also, why have I never heard anyone complain over diablo 2? its no where near as the first diablo, in fact most poepl seem to like Diablo 2 much more then its prequel, and now everyone is criticizing diablo 3 when in fact it looks like it does a better job then the 2nd one did at being like the very first diablo, but could be better. Thanks for reading my post.

By: Kitsune

Kitsune — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:56:00 +0000

“The color direction right now just seems too much like a fantasy game rather than a horror game”

…Could this be because it is a fantasy game..? I mean, c’mon.Seriously. A horror game..? No. Just no.

I like the new colour direction. You can actually see where you’re going. You want it darker? Brightness. Down. Problem solved. Or better yet, go experience fucking sunlight. Honestly.

“Ohh…waa..waa it should be all goffix”
No.
Also, it looks NOTHING LIKE WOW. WOW had blood, and the such like? No. Didn’t think so.

Whod’ve thunk that such a petty thing such as lighting could affect a game. What happened to that gameplay thing that used to matter, where’d that go?

By: Spiral

Spiral — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:48:59 +0000

It has nothing to do with WoW or trying to look like WoW. The photo shopped screen shot looks horrible in comparison. It looks like it’s in 16-bit color for god sakes, it’s almost like people want to play this game in black & white. More colors = clearer graphics, end of story. The game still looks plenty dark and gothic enough, if it really bothers you when you get it, turn the brightness and color on your monitor down.

Also, are any of you forgetting act 2 deserts or act 3 jungles or especially act5 outdoor snow levels? They were all bright, especially the snow in act 5.

By: Nathrizarri

Nathrizarri — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:08:37 +0000

And want to add something.. I downloaded the trailer to my pc and got good news for gothic lovers:D game looks alot darker in that really high quality video(+800 mb for 20 minutes video imagine how high quality). It lookes darker and gives all quality like bright one. I think it looks more shiny in the web because of lower quality but believe me, it is alot darker in video. Download it and see what i am meaning^^

By: Nathrizarri

Nathrizarri — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:07:22 +0000

I think dark version limits the games features.. Like enviroment details.. U see the”abyss” near the platform it looks great and gothic style will cut it’s details so it willnot be more then a single darkness which willnot make the atmosphere dark.. And definately i believe this doesnt looks like WoW.. Completely different.. Playing in a black area? or playing a normal colored area with shows every great detail and has cloudy atmosphere? I will choose the 2nd one.. Well If u want to see a Diablo 2 like game, go and play Diablo 2.. This is a new game and it must have differences.. And we are bored to play in dark dark dark dark….. Btw we have seen only 2 types of maps and 2nd one was sunny day in first and when it got rainy whole atmosphere changed so better to leave arguments and wait what Diablo 3 offers us. I think blizzard knows what to do and I believe they tought these kind of stuff 1000 times more then we do, so they must have a good reason for that difference.. My advice, wait and see.. I started playin diablo when i was 7 years old (1997) but being conservative is useless i think.. If that game would be like diablo 2, it willnot give fun to all of us believe me!

By: foffel/diablolover

foffel/diablolover — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:48:00 +0000

Like the game just as it is, just slide the brightness down and it will look perfect!xD :))

By: Simon

Simon — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:49:06 +0000

While I don’t play WoW anymore I think the approximate 10 million current players will disagree that it was a “dissapointment”…

For some stupid reason, people think the entire game will be as bright as the game-play trailer. Remember of course that we only got a sneak peak of ONE dungeon which I personally thought was gruesome and gritty enough and of course ONE outdoor setting that was supposed to be bright and sunny!

Blizzard have even said themselves that there will be dark and spooky dungeons, horrific areas and disturbing scenarios. Give them time to make the game already and I will be buying this game regardless of the art direction.

~Simon